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McDonnell Douglas F-15 vs Sukhoi Su-27

Sukhoi – legendary and super agile Su-27 Flanker

While comparing Western to Eastern technology and fighter jets we cannot skip over two widely compared aircrafts: Sukhoi Su-27 “Flanker” and the McDonnell Douglas F-15 “Eagle” (now Boeing F-15 Eagle). In the eastern aviation world Sukhoi stands for a legend. The Sukhoi design bureau made such successful aircraft as the SU-24 Fencer strike fighter and the SU-27 Flanker, series of air superiority fighters. The Sukhoi Su-27 Flanker was the top of Soviet technology at the time of its debut in the mid 80′s. Large but exceptionally agile, it had powerful engines and a big load of weaponry. With the Flanker fighter jet, the Soviet aviation industry made a leap forward in military technology. The Su-27 is a really great aircraft and a huge success of Soviet aviation, not only because it holds 27 absolute records. It is an exceptionally maneuverable machine, one of the most agile aircrafts ever built. Russians proudly demonstrate it during air shows – the Russian Knights aerobatic team of the Russian Air Force performs with six Su-27.

Flanker is an extremely nimble aircraft, can be controlled even at very low speeds and high angles of attack. A Cobra (Pugachev’s Cobra) – briefly sustained level flight at a 120° angle of attack – is a dramatic and very demanding maneuver usually demonstrated by Su-27 during airshows.

Video: Sukhoi Su-27 Flanker doing Pugachev’s Cobra

http://youtu.be/daOPK07baBw

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The unbeatable F-15 Eagle and Su-27 FlankerBoeing F-15 Eagle

The Russian Su-27 Flanker could easily compete with the United States Air Force F-15 Eagle. Both, the F-15 and the Su-27 Flanker were designed as powerful air superiority fighters. A Flanker performs better than the Eagle in a dogfight, but is the difference that big? Each pilot would probably share a different opinion. The F-15 Eagle is a twin-engine, all-weather, extremely maneuverable, tactical fighter aircraft designed by McDonnell Douglas (now Boeing) to gain and maintain air supremacy in aerial combat. It takes place among the most successful modern fighter jets, with over 100 aerial combat victories and no losses in dogfights. The only losses the F-15 fleet faced was due to ground fire. Here is what the F-15s killed during the Gulf War alone, according to the USAF:

- 5 MiG-29 “Fulcrum”
- 2 MiG-25 “Foxbat”
- 8 MiG-23 “Flogger”
- 2 MiG-21 “Fishbed”
- 2 Su-25 “Frogfoots”
- 4 Su-22 “Fitter”
- 1 Su-7
- 6 Mirage F1
- 1 Il-76
- 1 Pilatus PC-9 trainer
- 2 Mi-8 helicopter

The Su-27 on the other hand has a kill/loss ratio of 6-0, and two losses due to ground fire. One ground fire loss each was in the Abkazhia War and in the Angolan Civil War, 5 kills in the Ethiopian-Eritrean War and one in the first Chechen War.

The Eagle’s air superiority is achieved through a combination of superior maneuverability (low wing loading) and acceleration (high engine thrust/weight ratio), range, weapons and multimission avionics (including a head-up display, advanced radar, inertial navigation system, flight instruments, ultrahigh frequency communications, tactical navigation system, instrument landing system, an internally mounted, tactical electronic-warfare system, “identification friend or foe” system, electronic countermeasures set and a central digital computer). The F-15 is equipped with electronics and weaponry enabling the pilot to detect, acquire, track and attack enemy aircraft while operating in friendly or enemy-controlled airspace.

The Eagle would probably have an advantage at longer ranges because of its superior avionics.

The Eagle’s and Flanker’s armament comparison

The F-15 can carry a wide range of air-to-air weaponry. The Eagle can be armed with combinations of:  AIM-120 advanced medium range air-to-air missiles on its lower fuselage corners, AIM-9L/M Sidewinder or AIM-120 missiles on two pylons under the wings, and an internal 20mm Gatling gun located in the right wing root.

The Sukhoi Su-27 armament includes a single 30 mm Gryazev-Shipunov GSh-30-1 cannon in the starboard wingroot, up to 10 hardpoints for missiles and other weapons. Flanker’s standard missile armament for air-to-air combat is a combination of Vympel R-73 (AA-11 Archer), Vympel R-27 (AA-10 ‘Alamo’) weapons, with extended range and IR guided models. Flanker has a comparable weapon aresenal to the Eagle in some respects.

 

General Characteristics

F-15 Eagle

Sukhoi Su-27 Flanker

Primary function Contractor Power plant Thrust Wingspan

 

 

Length

 

 

Height

 

Weight

Maximum takeoff weight:

Speed

 

Ceiling

Range

 

 Crew

Armament

 

 

 Unit Cost

 

Initial operating capability
Inventory

Air superiority tactical fighterMcDonnell Douglas Corp. (Boeing)Two Pratt & Whitney F100-PW-100, 220 or 229 turbofan engines with afterburners(C/D models) 23,450 pounds each engine42.8 feet (13 meters)

 

63.8 feet (19.44 meters)

 

18.5 feet (5.6 meters)

 

28,000 lb (12,700 kg) (C/D models)

 

68,000 pounds (30,844 kilograms)

 

Mach 2.5+ (1,650+ mph, 2,665+ km/h)

 

65,000 feet (19,812 meters)

 

3,450 miles (3,000 nautical miles) ferry range with three external fuel tanks

 

F-15A/C: one. F-15B/D/E: two

 

One internally mounted M-61A1 20mm 20-mm, six-barrel cannon (940 rounds); four AIM-9 Sidewinder and four AIM-120 AMRAAMs or eight AIM-120 AMRAAMs, carried externally.

 

A/B $27.9mio (98 fiscal constant)

 

September 1975

 

Total force, 249

 

Air superiority tactical fighterSukhoi2 × Saturn/Lyulka AL-31F turbofans with afterburner12,500 kgf (122.6 kN, 27,560 lbf) each14.7 m (48 ft 3 in)

 

21.9 m (72 ft)

 

5.92 m (19 ft 6 in)

 

16,380 kg (36,100 lb)

 

30,450 kg (67,100 lb)

 

Mach 2.35 (2,500 km/h, 1,550 mph)

 

18,500 meters (62,523 feet)

 

3,530 km (2,070 mi) at altitude; (1,340 km / 800 mi at sea level)

 

One and two

 

1 × 30 mm GSh-30-1 cannon with 150 rounds; 8,000 kg (17,600 lb) on 10 external pylons; up to 6 × medium-range AA missiles R-27, 4 × short-range heat-seeking AA missiles R-73

 

$30 million

 

1984

 

680

 

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19 thoughts on “McDonnell Douglas F-15 vs Sukhoi Su-27”

  1. You cannot make a comparison of victories and losses in this case. The USA has been fighting 3rd world countries, against poor export version fighters and untrained crew. Also there’s not enough data about Su-27. Without considering the economics, the best way to know the best fighter, is to make a 10 F-15 vs 10 Su-27, americans vs russians, but both nations at their highest potential (not like Russia in 90s…).

  2. Por lo visto en cuanto a maniobrabilidad el Su-27 supera ampliamente por un considerable margen al aguila F-15, pero porsupesto lo fundamental es el entrenamiento del piloto y su habilidad, que es lo que decide en definitiva la victoria en el combate Aire-Aire.

  3. Americans always like to brag about their country.
    so saying that their military hardware is better than anyone elses is part of their culture, their “exceptionalism”.

    SU-27 “flies itself” and theirefore it is a lot better aircraft than F-15 and that is the end of the story.

    1. If true the F-15 and Su-27 are near equal, then it will be the quality of the man flying the plane, rather than quality of plane flying the man, that will decide the victor. That “flies itself” stuff belongs to the weekend civilian pilot.

  4. Andrea and also anyone ;-)
    You can not compare any aircraft one on one or 10/10 in a ideal or UFC cage like environment. A clean fight would never happen and anyone who would put their pilot or aircraft into a life/death situation without every advantage available would be criminally insane. There are always many factors in a battle space to consider that will change the dynamics.
    Electronic Jamming & AWACS (airborne warning and control system is a huge factor, just ask anyone who has ever been attacked from behind in the time and place of the attackers choosing…) properly used makes your opponent blind while you can see them.
    Terrain and battle field (Factors such as: are you on home territory, how many nearby airfields & aircraft available, distances to fly before hitting the enemy, etc) then there is training.
    American training and tactics is designed to put lots of aircraft in the right position to make use of every advantage.
    Then there is the reality of funding… America has the funds to do large scale (IE conditions more tough than a real war) combined (Fighter, fighter/bomber, AWACS, EW environment, SAM/AD threats) training exercises on a routine basis.
    Sorry but war is not fair: so even if a Russian, Chinese, Japanese, Korean or European fighter is better they would lose in a declared war.
    While everyone does the usual ‘well this thing is better than that’ they usually leave out the pilot and their training & experience which every combat pilot from every war will tell you is usually the deciding factor (well except for luck) in a battle.
    The classic example of that is Vietnam where training for the American pilots had been completely ignoring basic air/air combat techniques (see Wikipedia for BFM basic fighter maneuvers) but then they put together programs & training to correct this and ended up completely reversing the tables on the enemy (including talented Russian trained N. Vietnamese pilots and even Russian pilots) even though the Americans were heavily handicapped by bureaucratic rules (fly this altitude/direction/speed to the target, don’t hit them on their airfield, etc) issued from the highest government officials (President)thousands of miles away during actual fights!!!
    So just looking at the raw data of an aircraft is not realistic. Now in the future robotic stealthy super maneuverable aircraft can be compared one on one as they will probably go head to head on equal terms… But we are not there yet…

  5. Believe me! No Su-27 was Lost to GROUND FIRE in Angola. THE airplane was Lost during training preparation, to a airshow in boeing prepered in South Africa.

  6. The information and reports received about the Gulf War 91 is incorrect,Took advantage of the absence of the Iraqi side to spread these false figures, however. In 1991 Iraqi air force lost only 4 MiG-29s (one of them were hit by friendly fire )as we call it “Fratricide”In the first night of the start of military operations, for that enemy aircraft shot down only three and two of them were an easy target after being hit Ground controlled interception of communication. The story of an Iraqi MIG-29 were spin spiral and then crashed in the ground against two F-15Cs piloted by Captains Craig Underhill and Cesar Rodriguez “Incorrect” Capt. Qasim Hamad from 39Sqn of Iraqi air force clashed with them approximately 10 minutes without being hit or shot down and he was able to avoid two missiles fired on him AIM-7 and AIM-9 headon (after the engagement ended )returned to the base H-3 and land safely.
    The Iraqi MIG-29 scored three aerial victories.
    - 1 F-111F No.70-2391 48th TFW.
    - 1 B-52G No. 58-0248 4300th BW(P).
    - 1 Tornado GR.1 ZA467/FF Sqn 16.
    The Iraqi MIG-25PD achieved twice aerial victories.
    - 1 F/A-18C No. 163484 VFA-81 CVW-17 USS Saratoga.
    - 1 F-15C in 29 Jan 1991 by two R-40RD + R-40TD (named operation Samarra)BTW there is another F-15 was shot by Iraqi MIG-25 in 16 Jan 1993.
    The Iraqi MIG-23 achieved twice aerial victories as well.
    - 2 F-111F No.70-2384 48th TFW, other on unknown s/n but same unit 48th TFW.
    The Iraqi Mirage F1 achieved one air victory.
    -1 EF-111A s/n 66-0023 shot down by an Iraqi Mirage F-1 used Matra 530 in 14 Feb 1991.
    And here correct numbers received above (the article )
    - 8 MiG-23 “Incorrect” 6 only Unarmed headed to Iran.
    - 2 MiG-21 Unarmed headed to Iran.
    - 2 Su-25 Unarmed headed to Iran.
    - 4 Su-22 Unarmed headed to Iran.
    - 1 Su-7 Out of service of Iraqi air force since 1984 come from where !
    - 6 Mirage F1 “Incorrect” 4 only were shot down.

      1. are an idiot or insane>>??your referring on b2 bomber,,its not a b2 bomber has been shot down in Serbia its an Night Hawk: F-117 for your information..try to research mate!!

    1. Hawk Eyes story sound like Soviet propaganda from the 40′s and 50′s!The supposed planes of ours that got shot down are still sitting on our airfields and the pilots are sill alive. This is america. NO one has better records than us.Show me pics of all the MIG’s that we supposedly “missed”.
      also, to put this to bead real quick, the Soviets said their pilots(not chinese or NK)shot down 710 F86 sabres in korea 1950-53. We never had more then 250 F86′s in theatre in the whole war!

  7. I pick the F-15 Eagle, it has been in more combats. With over 100 aerial combat victories and no losses in dogfights. The Su 27 Flanker looks cool though.

  8. surely f 15 is a grt plane..it is nt easy to score 100 kills..bt till now it had nt scored a kill against a equally equipped contender..(su 27,su 30)..the kills were of only les capable fighters..it will b also very easy fr a su 30 to kil 100 or mre if it is pittd against (f 14,f 16,harriers,tornados..etc)…the real grtness of f 15 will b known whn it is pittd aginst its no. 1 contender su 30.

  9. John Wessley : <>
    BULLSHITS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    USA are a great nation, …. it’s simply the TRUTH !!!
    From 1972 (F-14) their fighters have always been the best, ’cause they got the highest technology, …….

    Hawk Eye : Iraq was lying. NOT USA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    The F-15/F-14/F-16 at the time of their release was simply a generation ahead all others …………
    The difference between the f-15 and the Su-27 is negligible, compared both have some advantage and disadvantage, ….. the F-15 is also lightest …………. would win the best pilot ………… (… And USA got the better trained pilots).

  10. If I was an american pilot flying in a war vs Russia (which would never happen)I would pick the F15 if i was flying air superiority missions or escort missions over eastern Europe far from our air bases,just like the P51 in WW2. If i was intercepting bombers or fighters over Russia w/central radar control I’d probably pick the SU27/su30/etc. fighters.
    Either way it would be the better pilot who wins .We know who has the better pilots since WW2,with the years 1955-1967 the exception.
    Remember the F15 has been flying since 1974. SU27 since late 1980′s. NNow the Flankers would be up against F22 Raptors which would no bode well for the SU’s

  11. All these comparisons between the F-15 and the SU-27 by so called experts and idiots from third world countries. I guess the Japanese and Chinese will answer this question. Because they have so many of these fighters in the air. Until that happens the F-15 will remain superior with 100 wins and is everybody paying attention?? 0 losses!!

    The SU 27 supposedly has 6 wins and no losses. Supposedly…*rolls eyes…The American fighter pilots have been defeating Soviet air craft for decades. Russia on the other hand has been sitting around and selling their junk to third world countries.

    To be honest with you, I’m not so sure that the SU-27 would survive against any American fighter, even the ones that are retired like the F-14 and F-4 Phantom from the Vietnam War.

  12. Research the su some more you will see how many time it got delay and crahses i think something smells in the su oh wait is unreliable while is good to look at i wont be suprised if it had a good avionic system which the russian always fail to do good in anyway f15. Has proven its reliability

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